In response to joe bartels' reply: Thanks again.. Sorry I must have looked right over the Bronco Butte link in your first reply. Same route I mapped myself from the south. I'll give it a shot. the 300-500' ascent you mentioned... were you referring to the steep section? Total ascent is around 2000'...

In response to joe bartels' reply: Thanks, Joe... The old trail sounds like our best bet...From which side of the mesa does it start? It may be the route I plotted that would take off from the AT directly to the south of the mesa... Yeah... Looks crazy from the top with those internal canyons. I co...

Just curious to see if anyone had any experience climbing to the top of Horse Mesa without ropes before I try.... Have viewed it numerous times from the lake and from the Apache Trail, but this will be first attempt. I have mapped several routes, some from the lake and one from the Trail. All seem r...