@chumley

Failure poles

@AK

You might want to call the forest service to make sure they are allowing foot traffic beyond the gate right now. This past weekend the sign said "area closed".

@DmN
It's all flat down in the canyons but usually some dead fall as you near where Beaver Cyn and Turkey Creek meet on the north end. They also get brushy and a bit annoying on the southern ends closer to FR300.

There are also no trails except for game trails and moments of old road cuts.

@Jim_H

People have strong opinions about you and they have strong opinions about me. That is fine and I don't feel the need to spend all day on this. I have a life happening and I hope you do, too. Enjoy your Sunday.

The real irony to all of this is you are a cliche of a leftist Bernie Bro psuedo-Marxist, and I feel free to " Call out" you, as such. The insistence on adherence to government orders in all forms, the denigration of those who question, the choosing of facts to adhere to which support you...

@Jim_H
Ummm... it's called an analogy. I guess I should have written it in the third person to avoid your razor quick dismissal but its early.

@Jim_H

So if my grandmother is in the hospital with cancer and someone is cracking cancer jokes, it's out of line for me to tell them they should be more sensitive? Ok. Got it.

I love preemptive "PC police" warnings. They are an eloquent mixture of pretending there is a conflict where there isn't and bravado for not being PC.

SAMBA wrote:If there are any "COVID-19 is no more dangerous than the flu" believers on this distinguished forum, then they need check out this graphic:

If facts haven't already convinced them, they aren't going to start now.

We think it's partly a staffing issue (can't put as many folks in the dorms) to do trail work as well as all the other duties. That's likely a big part. I'm guessing most park staff and concessionaire staff leave the area during the off season and would need to risk travel to come back to work. Why...

This leads me to believe that COVID-19 deaths may be overstated by some unknown amount. Doubtful. Considering some states (and countries) have come under fire for only reporting hospital deaths and not deaths in assisted living facilities and prisons, its more likely the numbers are under reported.

@friendofThundergod

How dare you derail my political thread with your semantics!

friendofThundergod wrote:Don't you dare derail my Blue Range thread with your politics

Sorry! Nothing inherently political about public lands!

What an incredible opportunity for the rebuilding of AZ's ailing trail systems, ravaged by decades of high intensity fires. Too bad about the large rolls of red tape. The good ol' days when we used the healing powers of socialism to hold up the quick to collapse frailties of American capitalism-- b...

@friendofThundergod

What forum do you think you're on???

@friendofThundergod Its public land, if the FS is choosing to neglect it, we have the right to protect and improve it ourselves. Disagree 100%. Where you see improvement as a maintained trail system-- others would see it as grazing (or outside a wilderness/primitive area as ohv trails, mineral extra...

Those big numbers account for the entire ebike industry-- not just mountain bike ebikes. The road intended ebike market is a much bigger portion of the industry with even larger potential growth.

Those numbers just aren't useful in regards to mountain biking ebikes.

DixieFlyer wrote:I'd say that about 30% of Americans are grossly obese and have type 2 diabetes;

Under 10% of the population has diabetes.

However, the percentage of Americans over the age of 60 has increased by more than 35% in the last decade and continues to grow. This is the likely the demographic to blame.

Alston_Neal wrote:Truly amazing and large groups of people standing around chatting, sans any face coverings.

I would love to see a poll of who these knuckle-draggers are. I'm sure it's a mix of many demographics that all intersect at "low education".

Is that being circulated by the dummies attending protests from inside their cars? Because they apparently aren't worried about anything...