@Jim
If I had to guess, they were using IBC tanks for storage and the HDPE type have a melting point around 130 degree C, ( 226 F). Easy for a fire to compromise.

But only a guess.

Sounds like it's easy to bitch about things when you aren't the boots on the ground. What I know is those men and women trying to manage that fire did and are doing their best. Once there was airborne chlorine it gets dicey. Chlorine gas can be lethal at concentrations around 400 ppm and above, with...

I see them in local parks in the valley and I'm fine with them. And I think I'd be better with ones in the wild with two caveats: 1) That they were painted with locally sourced pigments and techniques (no latex, acrylics or enamels), which would also give them a limited life span while exposed to th...

Rather odd that we have folks that go gaga over a piece of pottery shard left by aboriginal tribes but a painted rock is blasphemy to LNT. The only difference is time, although I would prefer these kinds of things be done with locally sourced materials and pigments. BTW, removing a natural stone fro...

I have used my warbonnet blackbird up and down the AZT, and there are some places where you have to "go to ground". But honestly, there are way more opportunities to hang than you'd think. If you're using a 3/4 Underquilt with trimmed pad combo for insulation you can handle Just about ever...

NVM, I went ahead and did it anyway

Mostly cause I'm lazy and don't want to plot it myself...

Doing AZT #25 as overnighter on the 15th. Message me if you want in. Firday night, Meeting at carpool location and heading up. Leaving water cache that night and eating in Pine, then hiking in a little bit and camping near Pine TH. Saturday hiking 14 miles camping near cache. Sunday hiking balance a...

@regenerator
Nope. I max out my groups at 15 due to forest service limitations. That size group will be great.

@Tortoise_Hiker
I get that. I meant Non-Arizona Backpacking Club members. Sometimes you just wanna go hike and not join anything...

We posted it through our Meetup.com group, but we'll take non club stragglers if they show up.

Details of trip: https://www.meetup.com/Arizona-Backpack ... 245262532/

I concur with Blisterfree regarding the Lake as preferable to Molino. I researched it via the Coronado NF website and they profess to having no water there. It's funny how many stock ponds I've found that are labelled "the Lake " on topos.

I put the route together here: http://hikearizona.com/map.php?MY=5179&M=6 We'll be starting on friday, travelling to Rincon Creek since Saguaro NP does not allow camping except on designated sites (14 mi). Saturday we'll be hiking to Manning Camp (I'll get the reservations Monday) That will be 1...

I'm section hiking as stated above. I'm an event organizer for the BCH Meetup group, so the trip is open for those members but I'd love to have anyone who wants to knock out those sections. I'll just add HAZ members as my "+1s" Details: 52 miles total 3.5 days to complete I'll take care of...