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Elk

Posted: Jul 31 2003 7:43 am
by joebartels
Snick33 wrote:When driving on 260, in that area be on the lookout for elk, they are everywhere, and hitting one is a serious accident. I read that on 260, in Sitgreaves last year, there were six Elk accidents, per mile of road.

I'd like to read that please

you've been hitting the sauce man

: rein : : rein : these aren't elks :lol:

PRESCOTT - A local Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation committee member struck and critically injured a bull elk with his pickup after leaving a fund-raiser for the animal.

The accident occurred May 17 on Arizona 89 at about 10:30 p.m.

"He was standing in the middle of the road when I came around the corner," said Scott Glattfelder, who estimated the 3-year-old elk's weight at more than 700 pounds.
"Bull elk" means an antlered elk.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 8:33 am
by Nighthiker
It's an elk crossing route, when elk are detected lights flash to warn motorist.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 9:23 am
by chumley
@Nighthiker
Also discussed in this thread previously.
In Arizona, AZGFD reports that about 75% of vehicle animal collisions on I-40 from Williams to Winona, I-17 from Flagstaff to Stoneman Lake, and AZ-260 from Payson to Forest Lakes are due to elk. If you travel the 260 east of Payson, you may have seen the elk crossing areas that have been installed in the past decade or so.

An AZGFD study I found showed that prior to the elk crossings, an average of 12 elk were struck by vehicles in a 3-mile study area at Preacher Canyon. If you extrapolate the data to cover the 30 miles from Payson to the top of the rim, that would be 120 elk struck annually on just that segment of AZ-260. Which is about one every three days. With about 2.5 million cars passing through there annually, the odds were about 1:20,000 of you hitting an elk when you drove that stretch.

Now that the elk crossings have been installed, the rate of collisions has dropped by over 90% according to the AZGFD report (commissioned by ADOT).

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 9:35 am
by azbackpackr
I have seen the flashing lights at the elk crossing, but it's on the old section of 260. I was talking about the elk fence on the new section. It runs for miles. It funnels the elk to go underneath the bridges.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 9:39 am
by Nighthiker
That section is near the Turnoff to Tonto Village and Bear Flat. This type of fence is also located near Ponderosa Campground. They believe this has resulted in "herding bears" into the campground.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 9:40 am
by azbackpackr
Nighthiker wrote:That section is near the Turnoff to Tonto Village and Bear Flat. This type of fence is also located near Ponderosa Campground. They believe this has resulted in "herding bears" into the campground.
Haha! That unintended consequence is kind of funny!

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 9:42 am
by big_load
180 North of Flagstaff is rife with elk grazing the shoulders. I drove through twice at night and wore out my leg being constantly prepared to slam on the brakes.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 11:34 am
by FOTG
@big_load
That's why so many miles of Swedish highways are lined with very tall fences.
I thought those fences were designed to curb illegal immigration from its neighboring third world countries like Norway?

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 10 2014 11:54 am
by big_load
friendofThundergod wrote:@big_load
That's why so many miles of Swedish highways are lined with very tall fences.
I thought those fences were designed to curb illegal immigration from its neighboring third world countries like Norway?
From my limited experience, I don't think many Norwegians are interested in crossing over. Finns and Estonians might be another story.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 13 2014 11:29 pm
by outdoor_lover
friendofThundergod wrote:hat's why so many miles of Swedish highways are lined with very tall fences.


I thought those fences were designed to curb illegal immigration from its neighboring third world countries like Norway?
I heard it was because chumley was getting ready to arrive over there...The Swedes were bracing themselves.... ;)

On a more serious Note, I did see a Dead Bull Elk on 260 below Pine coming home today...I'm sure someone's Vehicle is headed for the Body Shop.... :(

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 14 2014 8:35 pm
by Nighthiker
Was in the area just South of Pine this past weekend, not sure if they were elk or antlered camels. Thought the big ones were near Los Burros in the White Mtns.

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 15 2014 5:02 am
by azbackpackr
I see a pretty big one at Grand Canyon almost every day, on the way to Grandview. Stops all the traffic of course. He's not the least bit concerned. Dumb people walk right up to him. One of these days...

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 15 2014 6:39 am
by paulhubbard
azbackpackr wrote:I see a pretty big one at Grand Canyon almost every day, on the way to Grandview
This guy?
http://hikearizona.com/photo=155384

Re: Elk

Posted: Jul 15 2014 6:46 am
by azbackpackr
Probably not since that triplog was Hermit to Village, and this is well east of Village. However, there are a lot of those guys!

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 06 2014 6:54 pm
by Nighthiker
I am not sure how to call elk with an elk call but I am having success with a kazoo. Called in a 4x4 and a 6x6 the other day.

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 08 2014 4:21 pm
by Dschur
You don't even have to call them in .. in Payson! They just wander on through!

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 09 2014 7:07 am
by SuperstitionGuy
Dschur wrote:You don't even have to call them in .. in Payson! They just wander on through!
Of course as Payson is a gun free zone and the Elk know it! ;)

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 16 2015 11:31 pm
by azbackpackr
One dead deer tonight, and one dead tour van. I'm okay, though. It happened just after dark on 180 about milepost 249, about 13 miles southeast of Valle. Anyway, had to wait forever for DPS and the tow truck, but my bosses showed up from Williams fairly quickly. I had a tour guest in the van with me I was taking back to his hotel in Flag. Pouring rain most of the time. I'm just glad myself and guest are fine. The van took damage in the radiator, was leaking out water and steam, and the engine shut off and wouldn't start again.

Next tour season I'm driving a boat instead!

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 17 2015 7:36 am
by chumley
Mmmm. Venison. Burgers, steaks and jerky. All delicious.

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 17 2015 8:32 am
by imike
Deer killed my truck in 2011... kicked off 18 months of bike riding! Some good with the Bad.

Re: Elk

Posted: Oct 17 2015 8:35 am
by azbackpackr
@chumley
:) If it hadn't been pouring rain I would at least have gone to see the results of this deer's poor decision-making. But I didn't. I got wet enough, even with raincoat on, checking the damage and setting out the three hazard triangles.

When it happened it was instantaneous--no time to brake. I was going about 50-55 in a signed 65 zone. The deer bounced off the front end with a loud "THUNK!" and did a sort of somersault, and may even have been able to run off a short distance. But, considering the deep dent in the radiator it probably didn't get far. However, it was not in the roadway. Go ahead and look, it's about mile 249, on the southwest side of the road. By now it has become aged venison...