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Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: May 15 2009 8:25 pm
by Jim
The endless chatter of weather.
Re: 2020: Worst Summer in Memory?
Posted: Sep 04 2020 5:39 pm
by RedRoxx44
Just another cycle in human and planetary history. Hopefully no one will push the wrong button.
Re: 2020: Worst Summer in Memory?
Posted: Sep 04 2020 8:00 pm
by Pivo
@RedRoxx44 Dr. Strangelove
Re: 2020: Worst Summer in Memory?
Posted: Sep 04 2020 10:06 pm
by Alston_Neal
Truly the worst most stressful year of my life. Too many sleepless nights along with medical and business hell.....oh yeah and it was hot. But I met Chums so it's all good.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 04 2020 11:20 pm
by big_load
Jim_H wrote:I like how Phoenix had it's hottest, but Tucson had it's warmest. It's less than a 7 degree difference between the two cities, and most other locations in the country would call anything 90 or greater hot. However, the last few days in the low 100s and high 90s have been pleasantly mild.
I'm looking forward to some cool, brisk Autumn weather, starting with the forecast high of 111 for the weekend. It will be refreshing!
I wouldn't mind a day or two of that, but right now I'm looking forward to the several days of entirely average temperatures we're supposed get this weekend. The humidity is taking a break, too. I'm ready, because the dew point was 73 on Wednesday.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 8:46 am
by Jim
What gives? When I looked at the NWS site yesterday around 3:30, it said 115, but now the NWS officially says that 114 was the high. 114 was still a record, but it was not the 115 that was on the website!
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 9:07 am
by big_load
Maybe someone got overzealous with the opportunity to push the new record.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:18 am
by chumley
Jim_H wrote:What gives?
If you click on the NWS map and your "point" is closer to another station than it is to PHX, the temperature at that station displays.
Yesterday afternoon it was 115 at
Glendale,
Goodyear, and the
JLG Supersite (located somewhere near 7th Ave and Indian School).
Officially at PHX it was 114.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:22 am
by Jim
@chumley
I have a location for my house bookmarked and it never changes. I live about 2 to 3 miles from Sky Harbor in a direct line, so unless they screw up and give me a different station, I get the airport. I knew I should have taken a photo, as while I don't remember if it was another station, I am pretty sure it was Sky Harbor. It isn't that important, it could even have simply been a manual error on the part of a tech, but I don't like appearing to be dishonest.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:24 am
by chumley
@Jim_H
I would have guessed your closest to be at the durango complex, but that only hit 114 yesterday.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:30 am
by Jim
No, but it will remain to be seen for the LBJ.
Anyway, I looked at that super site you mention and the NWS gives GPS coordinates that when mapped on our map, puts it in an apartment complex. I bet that location is actually the air monitoring station at roughly 4538 N 17th Ave. What exactly is a super site? As long as it isn't a superfund, I guess I don't care.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:32 am
by chumley
@Jim_H
I believe it claims to be an "AirNow" site so that location makes sense. Who knew GPS coordinates were so challenging?
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 10:36 am
by Jim
@chumley
I think they just were not very accurate. I plugged the provided coordinates into the map. It was way, way closer than 7th ave and Indian School. Actually, I don't know where you got that from, but 19th Ave and Camelback would have been more accurate. More ghetto, too. Thats Meth and Hobo central! It was close, but if someone wanted to target a tactical missile at it, they would have been more likely to take out a low earning renter, than any air monitoring equipment.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 1:46 pm
by chumley
Officially 114 at phx already today (a new record). Another 115 seems likely... can we push it to 117 or 118? I figure there’s probably two good hours of heating ahead!
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 3:29 pm
by Jim
@chumley
Actually, I looked at the 5 minute observations, and this is for Sky Harbor, and it says 115 a few times today. I see 115 for 3:20 yesterday, too, so I don't know what that is about.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 3:37 pm
by chumley
Maybe the 5min readings aren't official?
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 4:24 pm
by Jim
@chumley You would think that if data was valid enough to post every 5 minutes, it would be valid enough to be official, and not inaccurate.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 4:49 pm
by Jim
I took a photo, to prove it, but the airport at 4:15 showed 115 degrees. I'm not lying!
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 5:33 pm
by trekkin_gecko
officially 115
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 7:16 pm
by chumley
Yuma notched 120. El Centro 121.
Yay September!

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2020 7:24 pm
by Jim
@chumley
I've just heard the news. Disturbing. I hold my vote for 2020 as the worst summer, ever.