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Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: May 15 2009 8:25 pm
by Jim
The endless chatter of weather.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 09 2025 2:03 pm
by xsproutx
Those lows really help mentally, if nothing else. I walk my daughter to school most days and last year was absolutely horrible but this year, not so bad. My wife runs 5-8 miles most mornings and was able to wake up later this year to get it done while being comfortableish.
I'd probably murder most her classmates to get those 1980 lows, though

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 09 2025 7:41 pm
by azbackpackr
xsproutx wrote: thought they were in some weird black hole separated from the rest of the world completely
That very common and popular belief keeps most central Arizonans away from the river, which is a good thing, because everyone from Canada, the northern tier states, Utah and all of California know it as a haven in winter, a summer water skiing playground, etc. If people from Phoenix knew about it, it would be more crowded than it already is.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 10 2025 7:50 am
by SpiderLegs
The trails in my neighborhood are built through the two washes that bisect my subdivision and they are just deep enough to trap cool air in the mornings. First morning in a while it felt refreshing to do my morning hike through the neighborhood. It was 80 degrees at my house and probably 72 degrees once I got to the trails a few minutes stroll away. Can't wait until the end of the week when the potential for temps in the upper 60's will be possible.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 10 2025 12:02 pm
by xsproutx
@azbackpackr
I did my first bikepacking trip out there a few years back based on a recommendation from someone here! It was fun! I really want to get into paddling which isn't something I've done for 20 years since I lived back east. Might have to hit you up for some beta at some point since it seems like you've been all around.
Still a black hole though...!