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Hey Folks.

I wanted to get some feedback about a loop out of Rogers Trough TH.

From reading road reports on here, it seems the road to the TH is doable with 4WD.

Once I get there, I was thinking of heading east on West Pinto to Oak Flat area and posting up for the night. If memory serves me correct, there's always water somewhere in West Pinto. So, I'm guessing/hoping there will be some near Oak Flat. Do you agree?

I noticed on my Green Trails Map that there's a cut through to the Pinto Peak Trail somewhere around Crockett Spring on the West Pinto Trail. Has anyone walked that? Is it choked up with catclaw?

The last time I was in there, Pinto Peak Trail, heading north out of Oak Flat, also had some serious catclaw. I can't imagine it has grown back into the ground. Any info about the Pinto Peak Trail would be great.

I also took the Fire Line a few years ago, shortly after a burn, and it was passable. But again, is it a total wasp-nest of a catclaw factory now?

I was going to spend night two at Reavis Ranch. The last time I was there, there was water somewhere in there.

If you think this route sucks, please tell me. I can definitely handle some catclaw. But I'm trying to avoid back to back miles of it. And if you have any other 20-~30 mile three day routes that you can recommend, I would appreciate it. I have hiked most of the trails, and a bit off-trail, just about everywhere in the Supes. Trying to avoid the west side, even though I know it is "more beautiful. Haven't done Frog Tanks, but I read that is a disaster zone right now. Again, any thoughts, are welcome.

As always, thank you.

I can comment on Fire Line and Frog as of last year at least. Fire Line is honestly pretty decent, just normal eastern supes nonsense. For Frog, the actual trail is kind of a dump but you can avoid the worst by walking in the creek bed so it’s not too bad in that sense at least.
Reavis will have water. Check the trip reports for pinto, thought I saw someone may have done that in the last few weeks and noted where water was but I may be misremembering/confusing it with another trail on that side

@xsproutx
Laugh "the actual trail is kind of a dump."

I did see a report that as of late October there was water a 1/4 mile up from West Spring. My experience over the years is that there's always water in West Pinto. I just don't want this to be the one time there isn't... I suppose that's always the case.

Thanks for the info. Will report back in triplogs next week.

In Wally's recent trip he reported no water along the lower portion of West Fork Pinto Creek, near your planned first nights camp. As FYI, the trail between Rogers Trough and there is a suggestion at best in many areas. You can probably make it to within a half mile of the old Silver Spring cabin OK, but after that it is bad, and heavy catclaw, where you really need a good GPS track, and may want to consider travelling the creek bed from there to Oak Flat.