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poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 9:58 am
by kingsnake
So, I was on the Scenic Trail in MMRP this weekend, and for some reason started counting poops. (Maybe because I am part German.) I did not see any doggie walkers, but kept seeing these poops that looked like they came from a medium sized dog.

Then, at one point, I saw a pile about a yard off the trail, that looked the same as the others, except like three dogs had gone there. That got me thinking that maybe what I saw was not dog poops, but coyote poops. Anyway, what pointers do you have for poop identification?

Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 10:06 am
by big_load
The regional series of guides "Scat and Tracks" is a good place to start.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 10:31 am
by PaleoRob
Maybe the fauna team can look at this?

Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 10:37 am
by Alston_Neal
If it has rabbit fur and prickly pear seeds, odds are good it's not an Alpo eater.
Dog poo has a more overall color and texture.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 10:52 am
by big_load
Alston Neal wrote:If it has rabbit fur and prickly pear seeds
Yes, it would seem from their poop that coyotes live mainly on these two foods.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 10:58 am
by SuperstitionGuy
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 11:00 am
by Alston_Neal
If it has little bells in it and smells like pepper spray....it's a Grizzly.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 11:04 am
by Sarae
Ah scat ID. I actually take photos of the scat and tracks I find on backpacking trips to send to my friend's little boys. They love the concept of IDing an animal by it's poop.

They have the book,
Who Pooped in the Park? Grand Canyon National Park by Gary D. Robson. Pretty scat-tastic.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 12:56 pm
by Al_HikesAZ
Scats and Tracks of the Desert Southwest (Scats and Tracks Series) [Paperback]
James Halfpenny (Author)
http://www.amazon.com/Scats-Tracks-Dese ... ikearizona
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 4:31 pm
by kingsnake
They were the size, color and shape of older dog doo, but some seemed to have -- without getting to close a look -- some grassy bits in them. I may have to pick up that Scats & Tracks book. Thanx!
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 5:01 pm
by CannondaleKid
kingsnake wrote:I may have to pick up that Scats & Tracks book.
I picked up 4 different 'A Pocket Naturalist Guide' fold-outs at the Mesa Forest Ranger station for $5 each. I like them because they fold down to 4" x 8" and are plasticized so I can carry them in my pack or even shirt pocket without worrying about getting them soaked.
The ones I bought are
Animal Tracks,
Arizona Wildlife,
Arizona Birds and A
rizona Trees & Wildflowers.
The one that would help most in your case would be
Animal Tracks, which provides simplified field reference to familiar animal tracks. It includes photos of 54 animals and their tracks, 18 bird tracks, 10 'animal signs' (ex. squirrel midden) as well as 11 types of scat. It even includes a ruler along the edge of the last page for convenient measuring of tracks you encounter.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 8:54 pm
by VVebb
Oftentimes you'll see the poops (yes, poops) in a location that seems to be NOT selected randomly, e.g. was specifically chosen to mark territory. For example, out by the Usery Mtns I once saw a nearly-perfectly square-shaped rock (about 8-10" cubed) with canid poops (yes, poops again) deposited on it -- very likely coyote. Beavers like to poop on logs that have fallen down across rivers/streams.
I mean, think about it: If you pooped out in the wilderness ALL THE TIME, wouldn't you start pooping in strategic places to send a message to other people that might want to make poops in your territory?
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 24 2011 9:07 pm
by nonot
Coyotes will typically leave their poop on a local high point, such as on top of a medium sized rock. Big cats often leave it under ledges.
If you want to see crap, just turn on your TV!
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 25 2011 5:24 am
by azbackpackr
I got rid of my TV. Now I have more time for HAZ!!
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jan 31 2011 9:46 am
by skatchkins
We should make an Arizona version
Re: poop identification
Posted: Feb 09 2011 4:06 pm
by kingsnake
Just ordered the "Scats & Tracks" book from Aamazon. (As well as new point-and-shoot camera, because my current is ... scat.)
Re: poop identification
Posted: May 23 2012 8:57 pm
by trekkin_gecko
resurrecting this thread
does anyone know what kind of turds these are?
Re: poop identification
Posted: May 24 2012 10:59 am
by PLC92084
I'm no scatologist but those look like dried coyote droppings... I see them on the trails around Vista all the time.
Re: poop identification
Posted: May 24 2012 4:56 pm
by kevinweitzel75
I would have to agree. Kind of hard to tell from the picture. Most coyote poop has fur or hairs in it.
Re: poop identification
Posted: Jun 19 2012 3:43 pm
by Hippy
Sarae wrote:Ah scat ID. I actually take photos of the scat and tracks I find on backpacking trips to send to my friend's little boys. They love the concept of IDing an animal by it's poop.

They have the book,
Who Pooped in the Park? Grand Canyon National Park by Gary D. Robson. Pretty scat-tastic.
My 4 year old daughter is the same way!! I take pics of poop for her all the time on my trips
