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marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 7:51 am
by trekkin_gecko
clockwise or counterclockwise?
bull pass or dutchman's?
side trip to black top mesa?
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 8:27 am
by johnr1
clockwise
bull pass
side trip - yes if you have the daylight
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 9:12 am
by The_Eagle
@trekkin gecko
Black Top Mesa = Yes which means Bull Pass is in the mix
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 9:25 am
by joebartels
CCW = boring done first
<If creeks are flowing>Dutch around BTM is a must</If creeks are flowing>
<else>BTM Summit</endif>
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 10:15 am
by trekkin_gecko
thanks, guys!
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 6:03 pm
by mr_squishy
I suggest clockwise with a return through Needles Canyon from the Bull Pass Trail to Boulder Canyon....look for my lost camera, Pentax W90 Optio, black with green trim.
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 19 2012 6:46 pm
by trekkin_gecko
i'll keep an eye out
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 20 2012 9:39 pm
by Trishness
trekkin gecko wrote:clockwise or counterclockwise?
bull pass or dutchman's?
side trip to black top mesa?
Clockwise from FW thru Garden Valley to Boulder Canyon. South on BC to Cavalry. A small uphill up Calvary through a pretty cacti garden. The scenery through here is gorgeous I say go through Bull Pass for a FULL and steep experience. If you have time go to Black top Mesa but allow another hour to do this. Love it! Easy 4 miles out the Dutchman.
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 24 2012 9:58 pm
by outdoor_lover
Heck Kelly, do what Mike and I did. We did it clockwise, brought both routes with us and made up our minds when we got to the Bull Pass Junction, based on how we felt, and the time of day....
With your speed and stamina, you could probably do both and just use the Bull Pass/BT Mesa as a side trip and then run the last four miles of Dutchman....
Re: marsh valley loop
Posted: Feb 24 2012 11:56 pm
by trekkin_gecko
consensus is bull pass with black top mesa, so that's the plan