Z...we went and spent a day glassing the sides with spotting scopes from different vantage points and another day riding the rims and walking..its a very hard search due to snow patches in the shaded areas. we found lots of debris but no plane. its a HUGE area. and would take lots of people or a pla...

In response to zihuat's reply: I have been to the stone quarry camps on black mountian, lots of debris scattered around. Is the debris in the photo on top of the mountain or on the sides. I dont live very far away from if you send the pic to my private message box, i will look and maybe me and my s...

Merry Christmas, Happy Hannakah, Merry Kwanzaa Happy Festivus or (insert whatever holiday name that floats your holiday seasonal boat) here..... Keep on hikin in the free worlddddddddd : rein :

I'd worry more about meth :o users and drunk drivers living in the Rimrock area than i would javalinas and snakes. I haver lived here for many many years, it went from a nice quiet place to meth maker and land developers wet dream come true. You say you will be living at Montezumas well? Ranger? If ...

Harvey Butchart, the undisputed hike master of the grand canyon, with over 12,000 miles logged in 42 years, wore cheap workboots. http://www.kaibab.org/gcps/butchart.htm Incredible man with an incredible life story

snow in sedona usually doesnt survive the first sunny day or two after the snowfall except in shady parts of canyons, Its a great month for short day trips. Just bring clothing suiatbale to several different possibilities. It might be 70 degeees or could be pouring or blizzarding. The good thing abo...

In response to 0hurricanes' reply: Hi Jeff, I dont know about that particular case you are talking about. I was just pointing out that unlike the alligator, mountain lions are under no form of protection other than the protection afforded to them by a 13 dollar permit . And the people who hunt them...

He must have been from New York or New Joisey! What goes around.... Jeff Jeff, Newsflash about mountain lions in AZ.They fall under the Predator catagory in Arizona and any Resident of the State can kill one for a 13.00 permit, (200.00 for non-residents) and they can be hunted 365 days a year. Why ...

In response to Sredfield's reply: High grade marijuana, perhaps? There have been several HUGE pot growing operations busted in the Coconino, Prescott and Tonto national forests in the past couple years. Could be something else of course, but high grade pot has a distinct skunk smell.

Any library in AZ has a treasure trove of this sort of information. Look under anthropology and archeology of any particular culture in AZ and you will get the REAL DEAL on the whats, whens,wheres and hows the natives of any collected their food. Any you wont have to pay for some yuppies SUV by buyi...

Rob, that was my whole point..the Mountain lions are plentiful, but so rarely seen that they pose NO threat to hikers. Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh my A mountain lion sighting always inspire a knee jerk reaction. There are much more dangerous predators in AZ, Humans.

Fear not the mountain lion.The odds of getting randomly killed on any given day by a serial killer in phoenix are much greater than being killed by a mountain lion. Mountain lions wany NOTHING to do with you, me or any other human. Occasionaly one will pose a problem to livestock and I know that onc...

You might as well shake your rattle dance around the fire and summon a witch doctor before using one of those snake bite kits. cutting and sucking out the poison is IMPOSSIBLE. It's 2006, I'm amazed they still sell this things.

I became a true believer in the umbrella idea. I saw one for 2 dollars at a garage sale and gave it a try. The only downside was an occasional gust of wind. Sure makes a blistering hot hike much more tolerable. : king :

oh joy. off topic political commentary

nothing better than to sit around camp and night with a little Patron, a litt le salt, and lime and some skunky smelling flora to make me a happy lil camper

I wouldnt lose any sleep over west clear creek being "devastated" by flooding. It was created by millions and millions of years of floods. Beaches change after every flood. If your favorite beach has been carried away, rest assured that it has been redeposited downstream.There will always ...

The "best" hike is purely in the opinion of the hiker. Seems like every hike has its defining moments that make it either a winner or a loser. Seeing a huge bull elk snorting and rutting,encountering a bevy of skinny dipping co-eds or finding an arrowhead can make a hike seem like the best...

Yeah, cigarette butts, diapers, beer cans, ect ect, disgust me too, but not nearly as horrifying as watching hundreds of acres of Arizona being dozed every day by developers. It's just a matter of time untill these supposedly protected lands will be, one by one, sold off to developers. 25 years ago ...

This is AZ, where half of the residents, Sun City et al, wear plaid, polyester, high water pants that are pulled up past their belly button and nobody laughs at them. In that light, if it's commentary on fashion, I think that sock and sandal clad hikers should be strutting down the catwalks in Paris...