Did Flatiron, How about Brown's Peak?

[indymtb]

I am from Indiana and did Flatiron a couple of weeks ago. It was awesome. I don't have much experience on the rocks and was wondering what anyone's impression is on difficulty of Flatiron vs. the Scree in Browns.

I am in good shape and very active, but when it comes to the rock climbing I am definitely a flatlander.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

- Chris

[joebartels]

Side by side Flatiron is more physical. Brown's is more technical.
The Flatiron spot is like a ladder. The Brown's spot (I believe there's two of them) is like a ladder with missing steps

When you do Brown's you have to figure in the twenty mile desert ride and the altitude a bit.

You can always hit up the backside and bypass the scarry stuff. But you'll likely end up in some dense vegetation and find it easier to put mind over matter and use the chute.

Unfortunately, I think the Tonto FS closed the Four Peaks

[big_load]

In response to joe bartels' reply:

Joe, could you amplify on that last sentence? What caused the closure?

[joebartels]

oh, sorry

it's closed to help prevent fires

The closure encompasses northern portions of both the Cave Creek and Mesa ranger districts. It begins at the intersection of Forest Trail 223 and the Mazatzal Wilderness Area and then follows Trail 223 across the Sheep Bridge and then northwest along Forest Road 269 to Forest Road 24, which is the Seven Springs Road. The closure boundary then goes south along Forest Road 24 until it intersects with Forest Road 483, which loops around Rackensack before hitting the forest boundary. The closure then follows the forest boundary until its intersection with Arizona Highway 87; it then follows Highway 87 north to the Bush Highway and then goes south on Forest Road 166 to the Butcher Jones Picnic Area. The closure then runs along the north waterlines of Saguaro, Canyon and Apache lakes until it runs into Arizona Highway 188 at Roosevelt Lake. The boundary then runs northwest on Highway 188 until it intersects with Arizona Highway 87;.it then runs south along Highway 87 until it intersects with Forest Road 627; then southwest on 627 to Forest Road 393; then along 393 to the Mazatzal Wilderness Area. The boundary then follows the wilderness border counterclockwise back to the start.