Better!

[joshyboy1369]

Now i can go anywhere, i want to go in flaggstaff of payson, definate water sources. Somewhere where you may be able to hunt small game? somekind of a loop would be nice. maybe some fishing too? not too cold like under freezeing.
thanks!! a map would help to!

[JoelHazelton]

You could keep these all down to one thread rather than creating a new one every time dude

Any maps you want will be at Wide World of Maps or order them from the forest service website. Use the trailDEX for all your trail needs.

Payson area with perennial water: http://hikearizona.com/interestDEX.php?ID=34

[Hoffmaster]

Somebody just got their driver's license! Congrats!






Everyone else - Look out!

[joebartels]

You could keep these all down to one thread rather than creating a new one every time dude

Amen, thanks in advance josh ;)

[te_wa]

Now i can go anywhere, i want to go in flaggstaff of payson, definate water sources. Somewhere where you may be able to hunt small game? somekind of a loop would be nice. maybe some fishing too? not too cold like under freezeing.
thanks!! a map would help to!

im telling you, The Highline trail is your ticket. Fishing. Hunting. Although, if you dont wear something bright you may just become the hunted
water everywhere. you can also make a loop out of the Highline in various places but if you start at the See canyon t/h you can hike along the Highline, then go up to the Rim via the Babe Haught trail, hike the nice area leading to Knoll lake to fish, then go back out to the Rim road #300 and hike over to the See canyon trail, back down the rim to your car. Thats much more pleasant IMO than just walking atop the Rim through a bunch of pine trees. Fishing in Tonto, Christopher, and Horton Creeks. (not all of them in the vicinity of the loop i described)

[Jim]

Avoid Flagstaff. Except for scattered tanks there is almost no surface water, and what is around is in the larger lakes. We don't have many loop trails, and they basically have no water around them. The greatest concentration of trails in the Flagstaff area (with in 50+ miles of town) is in the Dry Lake Hills-MT Elden Complex and the San Francisco Peaks. Except for Schultz tank there is no surface water that is reliable in those two areas. There is also a no camping and a no hunt zone in part of the Dry Lakes Hills Mt Elden area because it is so close to town. These areas may also be very cold. We were at 11 and 16 degrees on Sunday and Monday Mornings. We have moderated significantly, but theses areas are higher up and might be colder than you would really enjoy (low 20s). Personally, for your list of requirements I'd go to the Payson area, or the Mogollon Rim area.

[joshyboy1369]

what would be the daytime and nighttime temps on the highline trail in 2 weeks?

[te_wa]

average as seen near the middle of the November are projected in the 55/30 range, give or take. You'll have to expect some variation of those guesstimates by several degrees. For instance, last week the forecast for LaBarge spring was 73/51. Turns out, water at camp froze a crust in the bottle. So the temp was down to 32° (or less)
51 forecast 32 actual is a bit of a stretch.
When I did Highline trail it got to near freezing on both trips, in April and May. Funny tho, in November it wasnt any colder.
One thing to consider also is that if you and bro share a small tent, the temp inside will be slightly higher than outside. Up to 10 degrees in some cases.

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